OPINION
RYAN, Judge.
¶ 1 This is a parent-child termination case. The father, Tung T., and the mother, Minh T., are accused of murdering one of their daughters. The Arizona Department of Economic Security ("ADES") petitioned to terminate Minh's and Tung's parental rights as to their other children. Because at one point the case plan was to reunify the family,
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